Course-Up mode very unresponsive

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    RocketMan

    I used the app for my first time today, on my iPad, while driving off road and saw similar behavior.  I had Course Up turned on and track recording turned on.  The tip of the track recording trace would keep up with my position on the map but the position arrow would lag behind.  It was frustrating when I was looking for a turn and I would physically come to the turn long before the arrow was there.  Clearly the built in GPS in the iPad was giving a good position since the track recording trace was keeping up with actual position.

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    Lee

    I have the same issue on my iPad mini 5.  It tracks smoothly in all modes other than Course Up.  I even bought an external  GPS receiver thinking the built in GPS of iPad was not able to keep up.  That was before I realized it worked outside of Course Up.  Anyone know a fix?

     

     

     

     

     

     

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    Jim

    Hello all, 

    I'm just popping in to let you know that we have a bug report open for this issue and we're looking into a fix. 

    In the meantime, please make sure that your location permissions are set to "Always" by following these steps:

    Also, closing any other apps running in the background while using Gaia GPS may help. 

    We'll update this thread as soon as we have an update. 

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    Edmond

    I deleted and reinstalled the app and that seems to have improved things for me for the time being at least. You might want to give that a try while Gaia works on fixing the bug. 

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    anton

    Same issue here, with my iPad Mini. The red line advances properly, but the arrow lags WAY behind and the map centers on the arrow. So I am basically driving off the map constantly, making Course mode totally useless for seeing upcoming turns.

    In Compass mode, the responsiveness is fine but its far less suited to driving.

    We used this app all day every day in Baja two years ago and it was flawless. Something has changed for the worse. i'd be happy to be able to reload the two year old version if it was made available.

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    gabrielamadeus

    I've got the same problem, long time Gaia user and it's super frustrating. 

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    Steven

    Having the same problem on the mini 5. Makes the software unuseable.

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    gabrielamadeus

    Pretty unbelievable this hasn't been resolved yet. It's a downright dangerous navigation glitch. 

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    Kennyv

    Yikes. A year later and not fixed. I’m still having issues. I’m sending in another ticket. Please please make this a priority Gaia.

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    TucsonJoe

    Is there a resolution for this issue yet??

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    Kennyv

    Mine is working great for the past several months now. I’m not sure if it was an IOS update or a Gaia but all good for me.

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    Jim

    @TucsonJoe
     
    We are still working on fixing this issue, sorry about that.  
     
    If you have any further questions, please contact Support here.

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    Anonymous User

    Still seeing this issue (version 2022.4, iPhone 12 mini, IOS 15.4.1). Do you have an estimate by when you'll be able to address the issue or more background information what causes it?

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    smithfalsettidesigns

    Have been using Gaia since august 2021, course up worked great then a couple of months ago the course up developed this problem. Planned a callback and told me it was being worked on, then a week later it started to work perfectly, great I thought Gaia must have found the problem
    Then last week they sent out this new map layer (beta) setting, intermittent course up came back even worse, turned off the beta layer (which is useless by the way) restated the program still bad, I completely deleted the app this morning and reinstalled in hope that it will work, I downloaded a free trial of OnX and it is starting to look very attractive as it works well!!!

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    Kennyv

    For me, course up and recording works as it should 90% of the time. I’ve altered settings/reinstalled etc. I’ve found nothing that makes a difference. I still like Gaia over all others.

    Again, asking tech support to fix this. Thank you.

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    ncicale25

    I'm having the same issue with this KEY piece of functionality. I use this to follow motorcycle off-road tracks, and not having the map always up is super frustrating. As others on this thread have commented, the map stops following my progress as soon as I tap on that icon. Compass mode works fine. 

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    gabrielamadeus

    Two years since the bug report was initially submitted and still no solution, sheesh! 

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    smithfalsettidesigns

    Went out yesterday and used my phone instead of my Ipad and now the phone is showing the same problem, wish this would get worked out, purchased Onx and it is starting to look more attractive as it works!!

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    aldunham

    I also had Gaia exit course mode unexpectedly while I was driving. I have a Joying head unit with 1920x1200 resolution. The locate icon is tiny and on the far right side of the screen. There is no chance of touching it while driving to get back into course mode.

    If I touch one finger to the screen and drag it, Gaia exits course mode. It seems that I was doing a two finger pinch to zoom out, and one finger drags too soon, this changes the navigation mode from course to off.

    I enabled the + and - zoom buttons, but they are also tiny and on the far right side of the screen. There is a high probability that trying to use them will exit course mode.

    There is a solution - use a one finger double tap to zoom in, and a two finger double tap to zoom out. Another option is to use the two finger pinch / spread gesture properly: touch both fingers to the screen, pause, then pinch or spread.

    For those of us who use course mode while driving (and who doesn't?) Gaia currently prevents us from panning the screen to better see something on the edge of the screen. This causes course mode to exit, otherwise the location arrow would quickly return to the center of the screen. The obvious solution is to have the pan motion exit course mode, wait a few seconds, then return to course mode. The wait time should be user specified, but 5 seconds would be a good default. 

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    Scott

    Is there a fix yet for this??  Got a big ride coming up that I assist the organizers with - over 200 riders.  And Im planning to have many use Gaia - we ride fast single track and need to have preloaded tracks on the map screen.  And Course Mode.  But as soon as we touch the screen to zoom, or pan, it reverts back to the cross hair-off mode or the compass mode.   We will likely need to switch everyone to OnX - love Gaia - but this is super frustrating. 

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    Kyler

    Newer user here on an ipad mini 5, ios 16.1.1, Gaia v2022.9. Unbelievable that this is still an issue after being reported 3 years ago.

    Doing fast trails in a UTV and not having course-up behave timely is a big bummer for using this software.

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    Kennyv

    Hahaha. Yes. This is silly and is been years, I’d suspect since the apps creation.

    I have sent in trouble tickets, many of them and always get the same (out of the can) response.

    The app is feature rich but functionally poor.

    I’ve been a loyal customer (paying yearly) for a long time. However a few months ago I decided to find another app that works better, and I have. I’ll be canceling my subscription in a month or so.

    Ask the best.

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    aldunham

    Jim Margolis 
    8 months ago
    @TucsonJoe
     We are still working on fixing this issue, sorry about that.  

    I'm a retired programmer and I suspect that this could be fixed easily

    - if the display is bigger than a phone then start the app in course up mode

    -while in course up mode, allow pan & zoom for 5 seconds, then revert to course up mode

    It sure seems that Gaia is ignoring this bug, why is that?

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    RocketMan

    Apparently, they don't want to fix the problem.  It's such a basic functionality of a mapping/tracking program that it's ridiculous they are just ignoring this problem.

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    chuckeerickson

    Hello Gaia support, do you have an update? Thanks, Chuck

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    smithfalsettidesigns

    I have reported this a number of times, and it does still happen.
    I use a WiFi 8th gen ipad and a Garmin glo receiver, I just make sure when I turn it on for the days gps I make sure I go to Bluetooth settings first, make sure the glo is connected then Inopen the Gaia app, in this order the course app works perfectly, if I accidentally open the Gaia app first the issue will be there I then do a quick shutdown of Everything and then do it the way I have said and it again works perfectly.
    Not a good fix but it works

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    Kyler

    While there shouldn't be a need for a work around such as this, I appreciate you sharing what you have found to work. I will pay attention to this next time and see if I get similar results. I have an ipad mini 5 with a dual xgps150a.
    That this is still an issue after years and years is just unbelievable.

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    rossakabruce

    Nov 2023

    Used OSMand for years on Android & iOS, never an issue with the heading / course mode.

    Wanted to try Gaia, paid for subscription prior to a 200-mile offroad dualsport event this past weekend.

    The course mode failed me badly while following imported gpx tracks.

    The app is uselss if it can't do this.

    SUPPORT TEAM: Any updates?

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    Vince

    A fellow user, r/davidhally / David Hallyburton (Location marker / arrow doesn't move with map – Gaia GPS) provided a fix for this issue which is likely to be applicable for other Android phones. Not sure about iPhone.

    Go to Settings > Developer Options and set the following:
    Window animation scale = 1x
    Transition animation scale = 1x
    Animator duration scale = 1x
    These are supposed to be the default values, but mine were set to "Off" by default. Once I changed them all to 1x, the location marker followed along flawlessly.

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    rossakabruce

    Hi Vince, thank you for the reply. I’m using Gaia on an iPhone 11 Pro Max, can’t see any of that stuff in the settings anywhere… unless I missed it?

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