Apple CarPlay
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Would be great if the app had Apple CarPlay compatibility.
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let's tell the truth here... the last time i did this, it was deleted, and i got a private email
saying i was too negative and critical.... here we go.....
there is absolutely no reason for them to spend money developing this further.
they will not make any additional revenue from it. are any of you going to cancel your
membership to gaia 'cause of this?
i thought so.
is gaia going to make any more money 'cause of this? not likely.
i'm driving a '18 JL jeep. i run this in a pad standalone on the dash.
i use 67 design mounts for all my stuff. go look at their stuff for mounts. good stuff.
now, let's look at the reality. i decided to go see little finland, NV last weekend. google it.
it is a seriously cool place in outer nevada, 30 miles from pavement.
i used siri, and the nav app. it found it, and sent the destination to my dash unit.
i got turn by turn directions, eta, and all of it on my dash unit. gaia just sits there
with a national parks map up on it, so jill has something to play with, while it keeps
a track of our trip.
if gaia released this tomorrow for carplay, i doubt at this point, i'd use it.
i'm done here.
ya'll have fun.
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On our last trip, we used a combination of Gaia on our phone and Apple maps on the dash. Obviously, we were not looking for turn-by-turn directions as we were exploring trails off paved roads.
As it’s always been, I cannot do all navigation tasks with one app. I bounce around to whatever works best at the time.
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They certainly can charge for the feature if they choose. I have a 9" screen in my Alpine head unit that I would like to use rather than iPad mounts, although the Ram mounts and the 67 mounts are great. In my opinion Gaia is better than the alternatives but being able to CarPlay to my Alpine is important and I will switch to something else if need be.
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Here is something to note:
https://help.gaiagps.com/hc/en-us/community/posts/360031757674-Why-We-Don-t-Share-Timelines-
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Bingo, miamic70. Completely agree. And frankly, Gaia's claim that they don't lay out their plan for future development to the public is just, well, bad development and/or bad planning and understanding of their market. They will lose if they don't get a clue and realize people want this, and they exist to deliver what customers want. Otherwise, they will go the way of time.
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So, I got the private email and told my posts contained profanity so were deleted. How convenient. Also, offered a full refund to make me go away I guess.
I would really like to hear what “technical” issues are holding CarPlay back. My vote is its “marketing” issues because Google seems to have figured it out. TomTom has figured it out. Waze figured it out a while ago (I know Google owns them).
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I encourage everyone to end their subscriptions until CarPlay compatibility is released. It seems - very unfortunately - that comments alone are insufficient to get the Gaia team to provide any transparency into the release plan (or perhaps lack of plan?). Maybe revenue loss will get someone’s attention.
i personally would be happy to maintain my subscription if we were at least given more detail in the plan, issues, etc. Until then, I am cancelling my subscription.
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If you subscribed to Gaia based on something they would like to develop in the future, that’s on you not Gaia. App development is difficult in general, and compounded by competing priorities like bug fixes, OS compatibility, more urgent features, etc. I believe the subscription is worth the money for the features today, and I appreciate the stability and ongoing development of Gaia in all aspects. New features (like CarPlay) and regular maintenance and security fixes will keep me here, and my subscription $$ will keep them developing Gaia. It’s a win-win in my opinion.
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People who are salty about this have probably never even developed an app. So many entitled nancys running around today. If you are that pissed about a feature being delayed then just go somewhere else, the present gaia app is bar none the best IMO. Carplay compatibility would be nice, but carplay has it's own issues, and I can see it being just as good if not better to have your ipad or phone mounted to your dash, even after it's implementation.
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The problem is that Gaia promised the feature, then backtracked and reneged on it. That's not right, not when people are buying in, expecting it. I know what it takes to develop an iOS app. And trust me, CarPlay is not that difficult - it's akin to coding for a new display size. Come on. You may not care about CarPlay, but a lot of us do. And Gaia promised it. That doesn't make us "entitled." It makes us rightly upset, especially since they've indefinitely tabled it.
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If you put money down for something that doesn't even exist yet, and then get pissed when that thing doesn't come to fruition, that is ultimately your fault, not the developer. They didn't promise anything, they said they hoped it would be out by Q2 of this year (or whenever it was) provided that the app was feasible. If you think developing an app for Carplay is so easy, then why don't you do it? There is a lot of things that are going on in the background that you don't see, like how Apple restricts the way you display your app. Moreover, if it's so easy, why hasn't OnX, backcountry navigator, or anyone else done it? When you buy in to something that isn't in existence yet, and then kick and scream if it gets shelved, you are acting very entitled indeed. Gaia didn't promise anyone anything, you just interpreted it as such, and then threw a tantrum.
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My perspective wasn’t that they promised it. They said it’s on “the roadmap for 2019”. Completely different, but perhaps Gaia could be more careful with how this is positioned in the future. Things move and fall off software development roadmaps all the time. Roadmaps are not announced features. Gaia was transparent enough to let us in on what was on their development roadmap, which was interpreted by some as a “promised feature”.
I do care about CarPlay. I have a 2019 Ranger and building it out for overlanding and trail running. I’d LOVE Gaia CarPlay support, but I know not to bet on it until it’s in the blog or release notes.
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No tantrum or kicking and screaming here. You're the ones getting emotional, and I wish I understood why. You guys work for Gaia or something? You have some deep company interest that you are working so hard to defend them? derwpy1000 is absolutely correct. Gaia said it was on the roadmap, which means it's promised. I understand things change in the world of development, but that should mean a delay, not a removal. Gaia has handled this poorly, putting out a clear expectation that this feature would be delivered, then saying it wouldn't necessarily be and giving no dates for anything. I have to question their planning. Regardless of what's going on at Gaia, an honest explanation is what their customers deserve.
Me develop it? That's amusing. I don't really care to go to work for Gaia, thanks. What kind of comment is that?
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"No tantrum or kicking and screaming here."
Ok."You're the ones getting emotional, and I wish I understood why."
What?
"You have some deep company interest that you are working so hard to defend them?"
Absolutely, they currently have the best app for this market. IMO anyway.
"Gaia said it was on the roadmap, which means it's promised"
No it does not.
"I understand things change in the world of development, but that should mean a delay, not a removal."
This statement right here just bleeds entitlement.
"Gaia has handled this poorly, putting out a clear expectation that this feature would be delivered, then saying it wouldn't necessarily be and giving no dates for anything."
In order to more reasonably accommodate you, I hope that Gaia (or any company for that matter) puts in big bold letters next to all future projects that everything is tentative.
"Me develop it? That's amusing."
I assure you, I was laughing when I wrote that as well.
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Thanks for the enlightenment. Now that you've set me straight and helped me understand myself, I guess I'll leave my government housing and go buy some food with my EBT card and then stop by the bank to cash my welfare check, maybe make a few calls while I'm out on my free government cell phone.
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This conversation boils down to a difference of interpretation of what a “roadmap” means. Some took that too mean a promised feature and due date, others (including myself) took this to mean they will start development on the feature and subject to reprioritization or roadblocks. It’s pretty simple, and doesn’t really call for negative comments or accusations. I think we all need to remember it’s ok to have a different opinion or interpretation. It’s fine. I think we can all agree that a) CarPlay would be a cool feature enhancement and hope it comes someday, b) Gaia offers a great app and service that we all like a lot. 👍🏼
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What it really comes down to is the difference between a customer and an investor.
When you make a purchase based on a future product, and then get angry when it's shelved, it shows that you have no understanding of the difference between the two, being a customer does not make you an investor. As a customer, you are giving 40 bucks to GaiaGPS for the service that they currently provide. It does NOT pay for the ability to steer the company in a certain direction. That is what investors do. So when people throw their arms up and demand a refund, the company has every reason to tell them to kick rocks. If you are not happy with services currently provided, then go somewhere else. If you are mad because some future project got canned, that was gamble you made and lost, that's not on the company. Is it disappointing when something falls through? Yes, but it doesn't give you the right to act like insolent children. For all we know this project could very well start back up in the future, or better yet, something better will come of it.
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As a software developer with 20+ years experience, I can assure the curious that 99.9% of initial software 'roadmaps' change over time from inception to final destination. Just like any complex journey you might plan. There is nothing disingenuous about it, it's just how it is, especially in situations where you don't control all the variables, like working with Apple, sheesh!
Totally agree with drewpy1000 that:
a) CarPlay would be a cool feature enhancement and hope it comes someday,
b) Gaia offers a great app and service that we all like a lot. 👍🏼
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